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7:24 pm
February 16, 2013


GuitaristX

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sorry guys. I fixed it. 

7:52 pm
February 16, 2013


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Nice pick at 18.12  Guitar !   don't know how he went unnoticed so long ?  I'm guilty .  As a keeper league Fitz owner … Hopefully a QB comes along …     CB

2024 !  Here we fucking go again ! LOL

1:50 am
February 17, 2013


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Camarillo Brillo said:

Nice pick at 18.12  Guitar !   don't know how he went unnoticed so long ?  I'm guilty .  As a keeper league Fitz owner … Hopefully a QB comes along …     CB

Dude, YOU even spotlighted him earlier in this thread and I thought for sure he would get sniped after you did that. He scored more points than Fitz last year. 

9:17 am
February 17, 2013


GBinSB4ever

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liked Roberts for a long time but kept passing on him due to 3rd on his own team next year possible and who knows about QB. no question about his SICK VALUE OMGZZZZZ tho

 

im gone most of the day taking my lil one to see his grandpa for his birthday…..i just txtd cuda he is otc, wallace on deck and someone txt me and i can pick.

 

also my friend will do a review of the draft and teams like he did last year (anyone have a copy of that? i'd love to see it now lol) after buzz does the grid thing, thought we all enjoyed the read at least got gits and shiggles last year so might as well have him do it again 🙂

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9:20 am
February 17, 2013


ShanePHallam

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I actually like the Randle pick by wikkid more than Roberts!  Def. a guy I was looking at too

9:27 am
February 17, 2013


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Post edited 9:32 am – February 17, 2013 by wikkidpissah


GBinSB4ever said:

also my friend will do a review of the draft and teams like he did last year (anyone have a copy of that? i'd love to see it now lol) 

TEAM A
Boom or bust squad. You're betting on Frank Gore, Percy Harvin, Brandon Lloyd, and Fred Jackson. All of these guys have question marks regarding what they will do in 2012. Yet, these are in-arguably good players that score points when their teams play well. I especially like Brandon Lloyd going into next year… he'll score 8+ TD's with Bradford and potentially a lot more if he goes to New England. Aaron Hernandez is a good value pick while everyone is still crazy about GRONK. Can't feel too bad with Antonio Brown & Ben Tate on the bench either. This is a pretty good team.

TEAM B (edit: champion)
Oh Breesus Christ. What a sad sack of players this is. He's throwing the net wide on the receivers with Dwayne Bowe, Julio Jones, Reggie Wayne, Santana Moss, and Doug Baldwin. It could be interesting if two of those guys pan out, but I have a feeling he's going to be frustrated every week trying to figure out with mediocre receiver to start next. But Maybe Reggie Wayne scores 10 TD's next year… you never know. But besides Drew Brees & Tiny Darren, he will struggle. His bench is garbage, and I will never own S-Jax in fantasy football for the remainder of his career. The Rams are a bad football team that don't score enough points for him to be worth a pick anymore.

TEAM C 
You know, I like your team. All of these starters are reliable players except for Darren McSandy-vagina and Antonio Gates, who is not aging well. But, I see you have Brenk Celek in your pocket, and he quietly did OK last year. Helu is the obvious gamble here, but Santonio Holmes will be a good flex guy for you when Mike Shanahan goes back to Tim Hightower and then to some guy we've never heard of before. You got The Rapistberger at QB and you know Todd Haley is going to abandon the run on a consistent basis (cause that's what the Tomlin-Steelers do regardless of how much they want to pretend they pound the rock). And if the 49ers ever get Michael Crabtree going, you'll reap the rewards of that as well (but don't bet on it). You did well enough.

TEAM D 
Well look at this fancy group of playmakers. The obvious gambles here are Shonn Greene and LeGarrete Blount, but I like how he's stacking the Indy running backs as insurance… that's kinda smart. But P-Riv, Shady McCoy, Hakeem Nicks, Roddy White, and YOTTO Finley? That's sexy.

TEAM E (runnerup)
I'm starting to think the bottom row of teams aren't very impressive because this team has a ton of ballers too… and Tony Romo, but whatever. If Adrian Peterson returns at full strength, this squad could be scary, especially if Ryan Mathews and MJD do what they are assumed to do. I will say his bench is kind of weak, but I do like the Ryan Williams pick. Taking a second look, I'm not sure he has the depth to get to a championship, but maybe his young rookies will sprout like beautiful flowers in the NFL sunlight.

TEAM F 
This team just put TEAMS D & E to shame in the sexy department. All of his starters are threats to put up 15+ points a game on any given week. You've got AJ Green (love him), Matt Forte, Ron Mexico, D-Jax, Steve Smith, and GRONK on a single team? And you've got Felix Jones & Pierre Thomas coming off the bench? Well, my hat is off to you sir, especially if the Dream Team rebounds.

TEAM G
Way way way too many players that are off my draft board. No on Matt Ryan. No on Johnathan Stewart. No on CJ Spiller. No on V-Jax (I like him in theory, but he disappears for weeks at a time). Calvin Johnson & Michael Turner alone will not get you to the championship. Trade Jimmy Graham for a so-so TE and a better RB than CJ Spiller. I like the Kendall Hunter pick though. If Frank gets dinged, Kendall will get 80% of the carries… though watch out for Anthony Dixon vulturing the goal line TD's.

TEAM H

This dude is brave because he is rolling the dice on everyone on his roster… literally everyone besides Discount Double-Check. Jamarles was hurt. Michael Bush has McSandy in front of him. Cruz de la Salsa won't replicate his numbers. Marques Colston might be on a new team. Kenny Britt was also hurt. Fred Davis is good, but the Redskins are not. I don't love it, but he's got Mark Ingram on the bench? This is far from my favorite team.

TEAM I
CAM. Cam alone can win you games week to week. With that said, these RB's are kinda shitty. Beenie Wells has the absolute sandiest vagina in the NFL. He will get hurt at some point… you can bet on it. Meanwhile, Jahvid Best's vagina is so sandy he lives at the damn beach (I feel bad for him though). I'm a believer in Willis McGahee, but how much longer can he keep it up? Greg Jennings, Wes Welker, & Jason Witten are a nice trio, and well HELLO Anquan Boldin on the bench. Question, who drafts Nate Washington anymore? I guess it's the same guy who drafts Alex Smith.

TEAM J
Underwhelming, but sound. I have a hard time getting excited about Ahmad Bradshaw, Peyton Hillis, and Daniel Thomas at RB. That simply doesn't sound like a winning combination, but maybe the winning-version of Hillis shows up this season? There is high-risk, high-reward with all three of the receivers, and Vernon Davis is a good TE pick, but always a gamble since he draws the double-teams all the time.

TEAM K

Ladies and gentlemen, this is what it looks like when you draft good players on bad teams. Brandon Marshall & Larry Fitzgerald are beastly, but they play on teams where their value is greatly diminished. I think the Demarco Murray hype is a joke… call me when he has a good game against a team that's actually worth a crap. I've never been a Rashard Mendenhall fan, but he's proven me wrong before. This team is pretty mediocre.

TEAM L
And apparently, we've saved the worst for last. Was this guy even at the draft or…? How can you go into a season with Torrey Smith, Larent Robinson, and Tony Gonzalez as your receivers? And you're counting on the Pavlovian Skittle Beast and Reggie Bush to carry your squad? Better pray Justin Blackmon and Mikel LeShoure blow up for you.

11:52 am
February 17, 2013


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Anyone see cuda?

12:22 pm
February 17, 2013


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LOL I was team I, and I drafted Alex Smith again. Hilarious. 

4:35 pm
February 17, 2013


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sorry for my lack of activity i stopped caring about this draft like 4 rounds ago. when 8 picks in a single round are rookies i think that's a sign this draft is too damn long. 

4:36 pm
February 17, 2013


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johnnyBuz said:

sorry for my lack of activity i stopped caring about this draft like 4 rounds ago. when 8 picks in a single round are rookies i think that's a sign this draft is too damn long. 

How does that mean it is too long?  It is taking lottery tickets, and is required with no moves to be made until after Week 1.  If you don't care, then just have your picks skipped and have empty roster spots if they don't matter.  Heck, there will be people that go undrafted that def. deserve to be IMO

4:39 pm
February 17, 2013


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ShanePHallam said:

johnnyBuz said:

sorry for my lack of activity i stopped caring about this draft like 4 rounds ago. when 8 picks in a single round are rookies i think that's a sign this draft is too damn long. 

How does that mean it is too long?  It is taking lottery tickets, and is required with no moves to be made until after Week 1.  If you don't care, then just have your picks skipped and have empty roster spots if they don't matter.  Heck, there will be people that go undrafted that def. deserve to be IMO

i personally don't care for a 22 round draft. the last time i checked, i was entitled to an opinion on the matter. the league didn't start out with a draft this long –it started as a normal roster size league and has since progressed over the years to what we have now. 

4:42 pm
February 17, 2013


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Post edited 4:43 pm – February 17, 2013 by ShanePHallam


johnnyBuz said:

ShanePHallam said:

johnnyBuz said:

sorry for my lack of activity i stopped caring about this draft like 4 rounds ago. when 8 picks in a single round are rookies i think that's a sign this draft is too damn long. 

How does that mean it is too long?  It is taking lottery tickets, and is required with no moves to be made until after Week 1.  If you don't care, then just have your picks skipped and have empty roster spots if they don't matter.  Heck, there will be people that go undrafted that def. deserve to be IMO

i personally don't care for a 22 round draft. the last time i checked, i was entitled to an opinion on the matter. the league didn't start out with a draft this long –it started as a normal roster size league and has since progressed over the years to what we have now. 

You can be entitled to your opinion for sure, but holding up the draft and not being active because you don't care doesn't make for the best league experience and then it becomes the matter of everyone in the league in my opinion.   Just go back in this thread and see the guys drafted in rounds 19 and 20 that turned out to be amazing picks.  I'd rather not leave those type to free agency (even though there will of course be a few anyway,) it lessens that and allows for flexibility going into Week 1.

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February 17, 2013


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Post edited 5:10 pm – February 17, 2013 by Camarillo Brillo


2024 !  Here we fucking go again ! LOL

5:02 pm
February 17, 2013


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kinda lost my passion for fantasy football. life goes on. 

5:07 pm
February 17, 2013


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by the way, shane, the counterpoint to your argument is proper roster management with a finite number of roster slots. 

 

you think it's more strategic to buy lottery tickets and hope one hits, i think it's more strategic to use your roster slots wisely and really deliberate between player X or player Y rather than just drafting both of them on your team and praying one pans out. 

5:09 pm
February 17, 2013


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Post edited 5:23 pm – February 17, 2013 by Camarillo Brillo


Buzz ..   I don't know you but I have seen you around for years on the fantasy football sites .  I have always respected your input and help . Thought it was weird that you would say you stopped caring after 4 rounds ago ?    Sorry to here you lost your passion .   I thought something was up when I pretty much see all your picks being text into Gbin or to whoever throughout the draft ?    Oh well …   only a few more picks to go and you will be free …   Hope you don't intend on hanging it up ?  

Personally I wish we go 24 rounds !  I see there is going to be some talent left on the board when this is all over !    CB   

2024 !  Here we fucking go again ! LOL

5:15 pm
February 17, 2013


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johnnyBuz said:

by the way, shane, the counterpoint to your argument is proper roster management with a finite number of roster slots. 

 

you think it's more strategic to buy lottery tickets and hope one hits, i think it's more strategic to use your roster slots wisely and really deliberate between player X or player Y rather than just drafting both of them on your team and praying one pans out. 

And that is still happening.  I have about 4 options for my next pick, won't get them all.  Evaluation of talent important in this draft and all the players who had good years drafted in Rounds 19 and 20 last year had that talent and the guys who drafted them had good eyes for it.  Do you still intend on playing in the league?

6:17 pm
February 17, 2013


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Buz, Shane's point is just that if you're disinterested and thus slow the draft down for EVERYONE else involved, that's not really fair.

 

I can't remember how many rds we started out with years ago but I thought it's always been a very extended draft.  Back in 2004 we did TWENTY rounds. So all we did was add 2 more rounds a long time ago.  Not like it used to be 15 rounds or something.

 

Would HATE to see you go, you're an OG in this league, but obviously if you don't care about FF as much and this draft annoys you EVERY year, then maybe it's something to start thinking about, though I know I speak for everyone when I say we'd hate to see you go.

 

I also agree I think this could do 24-26 rounds and STILL leave talent on the board, though I understand Buz it's long, as we take roughly 72 more players off the board than other drafts, but that's the point, makes this league as much as possible, about the draft and predicting the future, than "who snags the dopest FA in week 1," again not always but as much as possible.

 

I will absolutely be leaving a lot of guys I want on the board by the time this draft is over.

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6:38 pm
February 17, 2013


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If we go 22 rounds . . then there should be no FA movements at all. The team you draft is what you have for the whole year. Hell, I would be in favor of also doing it "best ball" format, where your top performer each week is the one that gets counted. Truly see who is the best a telling the future for the NFL and not just rely on  "lottery ticket" or a week one bid for 99 dollars for a guy that pops out of nowhere.

6:43 pm
February 17, 2013


GBinSB4ever

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Wallace you've been advocating for the "no moves" league forever.

 

If everyone else wants to vote on this, we can.

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