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10:04 am
March 21, 2012


FTRWRTR

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Due to the bounty program they had, he's been suspended for a year and the saints lose two second round draft picks.

10:44 am
March 21, 2012


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I think the penalty is HARSH for the crime… although i do not know the Head Coaches connection…BUT how is this rule worth more than someone taping the other team to get an edge… Saying I will pay you 10K to snap his head has been going on at all levels of the game… I have never seen a player get the cash… but I heard the reward put out there … by other players .. coaches… dads.. uncles…

 

To me … Cheating should be punished more than trying to bust a guys leg… head shots seem like way to go

Thanks for the math help

1:37 pm
March 21, 2012


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Post edited 1:38 pm – March 21, 2012 by DGB


Full punishment details:

 

- New Rams DC Gregg Williams has been suspended without pay indefinately (to be revisited sometime after the 2012 season)
– HC Sean Peyton suspended without pay ($8 million) for the season
– GM Mickey Loomis suspended for first 8 games of the regular season (relative wrist slap)
– Asst HC/LB Coach Joe Vitt suspended for first 6 games of reg. season
– The Saints lose both this year and next year's 2nd round pick
– The Saints have been fined $500,000

Hail, hail…

10:41 pm
March 21, 2012


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The GM suspension makes no sense as it starts week 1… Can't believe a GM is to active weeks 1 – 8, and don't believe he won't be getting a phone call from his replacement if they are pulling off some deadline trade.

 

I'm not sure what to think. I actually thought the draft picks would have been a 2nd and 1st. The coach 1 year suspension is rough, but this bounty system was designed to hurt players. NFL is all about player protection and safety so you knew it was going to be stern.

 

Is one year enough? Had they not won the super bowl I might say yes, but since they won it all, and basically ended 2 Qb's careers I can't disagree with it.

While coaches have said for years you need to knock the other QB down early and often, putting cash offers to injure a human just isn't right. The shot Warner took could have killed the old man.

1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE

Eli, Roth

Alfred, Ridley,

Marshall, Cobb, Fitz, Garcon, Britt, DHB

Gronk, Olsen, Bennett

8:40 am
March 22, 2012


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is Peter King actually running the NFL now?

9:13 am
March 22, 2012


FTRWRTR

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apernesky said:

I think the penalty is HARSH for the crime… although i do not know the Head Coaches connection…BUT how is this rule worth more than someone taping the other team to get an edge… Saying I will pay you 10K to snap his head has been going on at all levels of the game… I have never seen a player get the cash… but I heard the reward put out there … by other players .. coaches… dads.. uncles…

 

To me … Cheating should be punished more than trying to bust a guys leg… head shots seem like way to go

 

I don't see how people think taping someone is the same as intentionally trying to hurt someone.  In addition Payton had been told to stop but denied it was going on and tried to cover it up instead.  The commish had to come down hard and let the rest of the league know that neither thing would be tolerated.

11:10 am
March 22, 2012


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I guess a guy taking roids should have more of a punishment than this

Love how Martin has a list of players on his towel to go after.

1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE

Eli, Roth

Alfred, Ridley,

Marshall, Cobb, Fitz, Garcon, Britt, DHB

Gronk, Olsen, Bennett

7:56 am
April 5, 2012


DGB

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The Saints (Payton, Loomis, & Vitt) are getting their chance to appeal their various punishements to the Commish sometime today.

I'm guessing that the suspensions get upheld.  

Hail, hail…

9:36 am
April 5, 2012


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Post edited 9:37 am – April 5, 2012 by FTRWRTR


DGB said:

The Saints (Payton, Loomis, & Vitt) are getting their chance to appeal their various punishements to the Commish sometime today.

I'm guessing that the suspensions get upheld.  

 

Yeah, video of Gregg williams telling guys, while on the sidelines during a game, to injure different niners players leaked earlier today.  I thought it was doubtful they'd get their suspensions reduced but thought there was a slim chance that could happen.  There's no way now.

1:08 pm
April 9, 2012


DGB

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Well Goodell heard their appeal and has decided to uphold the punishments.  He did say that he would consider reducing the financial fines at some future date depending on how Payton/Loomis/Vitt handle themselves and the whole situation going forward.  If they toe the line and cooperate with the league's message then they might get some of their forefitted salary back.

Goodell also left the door open a crack to possibly modify the draft pick penalty for the Saints in 2013.

Hail, hail…

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