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5:00 pm
April 3, 2012


CB

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Post edited 5:05 pm – April 3, 2012 by Camarillo Brillo


10 Team Deep Keeper League  ( Keep 7 every year )  Non PPR / Standard scoring .  Quick question for input …   would you trade Aj Green or Fitz —  For the 1.2 pick / Demarius Thomas ?   I would be giving Green or Fitz in the trade …  Below is my team …  CB

2024 !  Here we fucking go again ! LOL

8:21 am
April 4, 2012


FTRWRTR

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  Bay bay has alot of potential but he didn't do a whole lot in college, mostly due to that offense and ga. tech's qb, plus bay bay still needs to prove he can stay healthy.   And with rivers you don't need luck.  So I would do the deal for green but not fitz.

7:31 am
April 5, 2012


DGB

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Not sure if this helps you, but in one of my dynasty leagues someone just traded D Thomas straight up for the 1.5 pick.

 

Who is your target with the 1.2?  Do you want one of the QBs (as FTR said, you already have Rivers)?  Are you hoping that Richardson is there?

Hail, hail…

9:33 am
April 5, 2012


FTRWRTR

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If you feel confident you can add richardson keep baybay and the 1:2.

11:20 am
April 6, 2012


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Richardson will go at the 1.1 for sure  ..  so I'm outta luck with that  …. Prolly be looking at  Lamar Miller or the next RB who landed in the best position orrr ….Blackmon maybe ?  . So the question is ? Would you trade  Aj Green for saaaaaaay ??    Lamar Miller / Bay Bay ?    CB 

2024 !  Here we fucking go again ! LOL

10:44 am
April 7, 2012


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Post edited 10:50 am – April 7, 2012 by FTRWRTR


Personally, I'm not nearly as sold on this rb class as many people are.  I think there are a number of guys with talent and potential but the only sure fire stud is richardson.  For example there's a lot to like about miller, decent size, runs a 4.4/40, and comes from a school that's known to produce good rbs.  However the guy only played two years of college ball and started one year before turning pro and that concerns me.  Plus his racking up 1,272 yards last season vs ACC competition doesn't impress me.  And bay bay is another guy with potential but with some concerns so I'd much rather have green than gamble.

2:02 pm
April 7, 2012


Doc Diablo

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Hey Cam,

 

Personally, I'm a lot less inclined to trade sure-fire WRs (especially young ones) for RB talent (especially question marks) than I used to be.  They are important, no doubt, but they are becoming easier and easier to piece together, where as top flight WRs are still tough to come by and are becoming more reliable than the RBs of today.

 

However, I also know that high level draft choices, especially in dynasty and deep keepers, become more valuable after the draft than before it.  Before the draft, most everyone knows who #1 will be (though the fire often quells a bit after the draft), but when people are looking at the 2 on down, there is so much ambiguity that the value is not there.  After the draft, however, when people see some seriously tasty situations, people start getting crazy and willing to trade top-notch talent for them.

 

With that said, though, I think you are already giving up at least a 2nd round type talent, which is about as much as you can ever hope for out of a rookie draft, so unless you think you can turn the pick around after the draft for something truly exceptional, it's simply not worth the risk.

6:14 pm
April 9, 2012


CB

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Hi Doc !   Great to hear from ya !!    Some of us guys migrated over here … as you see DGB and FTRWRTR and many others are still giving valuable opinions and info ….  Were all just roaming around to different sites like the Zombies in walking dead !!   LOL !   Thanks for chiming in !   Hope you hang around !      CB 

2024 !  Here we fucking go again ! LOL

6:53 pm
April 17, 2012


Doc Diablo

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Camarillo Brillo said:

Hi Doc !   Great to hear from ya !!    Some of us guys migrated over here … as you see DGB and FTRWRTR and many others are still giving valuable opinions and info ….  Were all just roaming around to different sites like the Zombies in walking dead !!   LOL !   Thanks for chiming in !   Hope you hang around !      CB 

No doubt.  I'll be around I'm sure.  This year was already promising to be a pretty laid-back year for me seeing as I haven't even so much as looked at any sporting news in the last 3 months (I've caught a few of the highlights, but just simply do not have the time for anything other than full-bore studying and raising kids right now).

 

I'll be lurking around and throw in my .02 every now and again, then I'll catch up to yall in a year or two when the shit stops pounding the fan.

9:44 pm
April 17, 2012


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No… Green and Fitz look to be top 10 WR's that you will keep for 5+ years. The crap shoot #2 RB isn't worth this. Even if you hit on a RB, you'll probably cut him in 5 to 7 years while the owner who gets Green will still be starting him every week.

1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE

Eli, Roth

Alfred, Ridley,

Marshall, Cobb, Fitz, Garcon, Britt, DHB

Gronk, Olsen, Bennett

11:01 am
April 18, 2012


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Post edited 11:04 am – April 18, 2012 by Camarillo Brillo


Trade Update ….  I ended up Trading  Aj Green , Shonne Green , and my 2013  1st rd pick …….    In return I recieved  Leshaun McCoy , H. Nicks and his 2013 6th rd pick .

Im happy with this …  My starting line up will now have Rivers,McCoy,,Fitz,Nicks,Witten in it .  Im still weak at the RB2 position Im hoping Ingram/Blount/or D.Thomas can come through for me ..       CB

2024 !  Here we fucking go again ! LOL

4:03 pm
April 18, 2012


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Post edited 4:05 pm – April 18, 2012 by Doc Diablo


Seems pretty good to me.  I like Green a lot, but must admit that relying on Cinci to put out a decent enough offense for him to excel in consistently would frighten me a bit for the long haul.  Nicks is a downgrade, but getting McCoy and ridding yourself of the headache that is Greene is all good.  I'm not a huge fan of the big hit you took in '13.  The difference between a 1st rounder and a 6th in a league like this is magnified 10-fold, simply because it's the difference between a 2nd round talent grade to about a 14th round talent grade (since any and all talent will easily be gone by the 6th round).

 

You're essentially giving up a 1st rounder to make the deal work.  I get that you needed to throw in somethin, but that seems like a lot.

 

That being said, you essentially gave up Green and a 1st for Nicks (who I dont think is a major downgrade here) and McCoy, and when I look at it like that, it looks pretty good.

10:00 am
April 19, 2012


FTRWRTR

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Overall I like the trade for you…the pick part definitely hurt but I don't think you lose anything at wr and you got a nice upgrade at wr

10:07 am
April 19, 2012


DGB

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I'm with Doc and FTR and think that I like the trade for you.  McCoy is a very nice upgrade over Greene.  Nicks situation with the Giants is a whole heck of a lot more fantasy friendly than Green's.  I expect you to score more and score more consistently after that trade.

 

So who else are you planning on keeping? You've listed the no-brainers: Rivers, McCoy, Fitz, Nicks, Witten.  That leaves 2 keeper spots.

If it were me, I'd probably keep A Brown and then struggle to decide between Ingram and D Thomas.

Hail, hail…

1:15 pm
April 19, 2012


FTRWRTR

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DGB said:

If it were me, I'd probably keep A Brown and then struggle to decide between Ingram and D Thomas.

With Pitt keeping Wallace I'd keep both Bay bay and Ingram over Brown. 

2:12 pm
April 19, 2012


DGB

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FTRWRTR said:

DGB said:

If it were me, I'd probably keep A Brown and then struggle to decide between Ingram and D Thomas.

With Pitt keeping Wallace I'd keep both Bay bay and Ingram over Brown. 

 

D Thomas = Daniel Thomas, MIA RB not Demaryius.

Hail, hail…

7:23 pm
April 19, 2012


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Yep ..   Its Daniel Thomas …   At This point I am leaning toward Ingram  and Daniel T .    I am high on A.Brown though  !     Ugh …  lol     CB

2024 !  Here we fucking go again ! LOL

11:45 am
April 20, 2012


FTRWRTR

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Post edited 11:45 am – April 20, 2012 by FTRWRTR


Oh, ok

cb – another thing to remember is that emanuel saunders is also back for pitt.

8:40 pm
April 23, 2012


CB

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Just traded McCoy/Fitz/Ingram/Witten –and received –  MJD/CJ/SteveSmith/and A.Hernandez ….  Ugh …  I hope I did the right thing for my team …  seems pretty fair .. but it was a hard decision to make .  CB

2024 !  Here we fucking go again ! LOL

9:22 am
April 24, 2012


FTRWRTR

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yeah, that's kind of a ballsy move.  Obviously you got a nice upgrade going from ingram to cj but giving up fitz and witten for SS and hernandez might hurt.

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